Is it worth learning to use Emacs for web development_问答_开发者

I have never used Emacs before and the first time I tried it I was so repulsed by its interface which seemed not very user friendly . But since then I have heard a lot about it improving productivity an开发者_开发百科d this has rekindled my interest . But is it true for the case of web development as well? for the likes of php,python,javascript/jquery etc . How good are the code completion features?

Please suggest some resources to get me started in the right direction.

I'm a bit of a religious user when it comes to Emacs so please take this with a few bags of salt. I'll try to state my reasons for using Emacs (including for web development).

Emacs' primary strength is it's extensibility and the fact that at it's core, it's a lisp interpreter with a bunch of primitive functions useful for text editing and display. This makes it "programmable". You can customise it almost endlessly.

This has spurred a number of libraries which do (common) things like code completion, source code browsing, test harness integration, refactoring tool integration, version control integration etc. If a developer working on a project is an Emacs user, it's not uncommon to see her adding something to her project just to get it to work well with Emacs. The extensibility has also spurred a number of less that conventional libraries like mail clients, web browsers, IRC clients, music players etc.

Many Emacs users keep most of their work (except for maybe their browsers) inside Emacs. This allows them to use the same keystrokes and high level techniques for everything that they use. I myself use it for my daily coding, for my email, as my PIM and a bunch of other things. I can for example, while working on my code, just write something like "TBD" as a comment somewhere and let the PIM part remember this as a TODO item next time I open the editor. I can also for example while coding simply switch to another "buffer" (the emacs term for windows) with an IRC client and ask questions I might have to other people who are online. This makes me quite productive and quick. Also, the keystrokes are almost the same on a large number of command line UNIX programs (like my shell etc.) which helps me do my work faster.

Another advantage is that Emacs is old. People have tweaked and polished it endlessly and still do. The result is a set of commands for editing that I didn't even know that I needed. Things like "capitalise word" to make the first letter of the word my cursor is on upper case sounds trivial but while you're editing, it's quite useful.

Being extensible, Emacs has "modes". These are environments for specific programming languages. Indentation rules, syntaxes, completion etc. will change depending on the mode you're in. There are modes for almost all modern languages and they provide substantial help while editing. You have things for javascript, php etc. which help you while coding in those languages. There are also web specific tools (e.g. Emacs can talk to MozRepl so that you can refresh you browser and things while editing). People write modes all the time for what they want and it's not too hard. I recently started using jekyll to maintain my blog and wrote a mode to make my life easier). The modes add functionality but at a base level are the same (e.g. same keys to delete a character, move forward by a sentence etc.). I like this because I don't have to learn a whole new set of keys and get used to them just to code in another language.

That being said, Emacs is a tool for a different kind of developer. Most hardcore Emacs users (and there are quite a few famous ones out there) don't use many IDE type features. They usually like just a window (Without toolbars, menu bars and all that) so that the real estate for code is maximum. If you're used to leaning on a feature heavy IDE to do your work, Emacs might not be the right tool for you (I think this is what Trey meant in his comment). If however, you want a programmers editor that stays out of the way and let's you get your job done with minimum hassle, it's something you should definitely try out.

Okay, resources. The first thing to do is to start up Emacs and type Ctrl-h t. This gives you a "hands on" tutorial you can use to learn the editor basics. Once you're done with that, you can read the fine manual at http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html. Once you're happy with that, you can read the Emacs lisp tutorial and start extending and customising Emacs as per your wishes. The EmacsWiki is a great place for tips, tricks and docs as is the Emacs IRC channel.

All the best!

If you don't like the interface, it's not worth it.

The question isn't is it worth learning Emacs, it is do you want to learn the interface?

If you do, then it's worth it. If you don't, then it's not.

More concretely, I'll answer your broad question with a series of links you could have gotten from the Emacs wiki:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/JavaDevelopmentEnvironment
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/NxhtmlMode
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HtmlMode
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MuMaMo
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PhpMode
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/php-completion.el
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/php-mode-improved.el
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/JavaScriptMode
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FlymakeJavaScript
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PythonMode
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PythonProgrammingInEmacs
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryProgrammerUtils

Yes, people like using Emacs for web development. The above is just a sampling of modes people have written and use on a daily basis.

Is it for you? I don't know.

Is it better than editor X? or IDE Y? Yes for some things, no for others.

The code completion features are great! (unless they're not) It depends on what you want, what languages you're talking about, etc. etc. etc.

People use vi, people use Emacs, people use Notepad, people use all sorts of text editors.

Note: asking vague questions leads to vague answers.

The ultimate web programming mode is arguably nxhtml mode. You might start by taking a look at it. You might also want to check out some rich preexisting Emacs configurations like the Emacs Starter Kit or the Emacs Dev Kit.

The PHP & Python modes in Emacs are not particularly great, but are fairly decent. The JavaScript mode is certainly great. Packages such as autocomplete mode provide good completion almost everywhere.

I'm certainly biased, but I think that if you do spend some time exploring Emacs you'll find out that it will boost your productivity.

As some other posters have eluded to, it all depends on what you want out of it. If you want to feel as good about the customizations you've been able to get working in emacs as you do about the actual code that you write, then sure.. Emacs is great ;)

(Before anyone jumps down my throat, emacs is by far my favorite editor for 'nix C/C++ editing, but that's not what the OP's looking for here ;))

In my crusade to find the most productive editor for PHP, Python, Javascript etc, my favorite thus far has been Komodo Edit. It features not only code completion, but jump-to-definition (as well as many other features that a full-featured IDE should have) and is really the closest thing to Visual Studio for OS scripting development that I've seen. Oh, and it's free.

Honestly, braces against the rotten fruit/vegetables that will surely be thrown my way I've recently become a fan of the NetBeans IDE for web development. Particularly when It comes to PHP.

But to answer you question: It's only worth it if it's worth it to you. Sorry, vague questions get vague answers. ;)

If you're using an existing IDE that can do web development, than use the IDE. If not Emacs is worthwhile to learn as the text editor to go to for text editing or for programming in language that do not have a good IDE.